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The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« on: July 11, 2013, 02:50:31 pm »
Ok ok, hey guys. Hi, my name is Doctor Scootaloo. You all love me, k thx. Anyways, the new TF2 update introduced a few fixes, buffs and nerfs. Some of these changes entered Saxton Hell. What I noticed immediately was the stupid Escape Plan marked for death thingy that made it difficult to melee Hale with the Batallion's Backup equipped (215 HP). Hale would insta-kill me before I even get to use my banner and I've been in a huge fit lately. Voidy, please remove the marked for death debuff on the Escape Plan. Please. It is so useless on VSH and only makes Hale's life easier.

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 02:56:46 pm »
FIX IT FENNEC~!
Well, hopefully it should be fixed because "marked to death" in vsh doesn't really make sense.
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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 03:45:58 pm »
I was under the impression that the Batallion's Backup was changed to build when dealing damage rather than receiving?

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 04:55:39 pm »
I was under the impression that the Batallion's Backup was changed to build when dealing damage rather than receiving?

Yes, it was changed to do so. But the 'marked for death' still doesn't really fit into the VSH mode anyways. It doesn't really make a big difference in regular TF2 gameplay (you only really use the Escape Plan at low health, when you'd probably get one-shot anyways)

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 05:08:25 pm »
I was under the impression that the Batallion's Backup was changed to build when dealing damage rather than receiving?
It still seems to use the old version in randomizer, to my knowledge.  Also a lot of wrenches can't build in randomizer right now so that might need to be fixed.
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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 06:13:16 pm »
the only thing loose cannon is good for is the donk minicrit but why the hell the escape plan need nerf u nerfed equialzer the hell out of now they nerf escape plan for no reason at all its little kids who bitch n say i cant catch that soldier, day of the suggestions for weapon buffs/nerfs oh lets get escape plan nerfed so u pull it out n ur marked for death( we all miss the old equilzer dont we)


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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 09:36:56 pm »
From my experience in Saxton Hell, Voidy, I was able to receive rage both by damaging Hale and receiving damage by Hale. Keep it like that ;p. But I keep my Escape Plan out just to get ready to run away. The Marked for Death is useless in VSH and hinders soldiers a bit.

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 09:51:38 pm »
Well I've removed marked for death, so it should hopefully behave like it did before.

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 10:36:15 pm »
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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 04:56:44 pm »
Well I've removed marked for death, so it should hopefully behave like it did before.
i literally cannot use the escape plan right now
it switches over to the damagequalizer

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2013, 06:55:10 pm »
It should be giving an equalizer with the escape plan's speed boost.

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2013, 08:32:42 pm »
It should be giving an equalizer with the escape plan's speed boost.
It's not doing that for me

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2013, 03:26:01 am »
Yo, Voidy. The new equaliser is just a shovel. There are no stats and it's broken. Fix. Fix it now. The stats, even though they are there on the weapon stats, do not come up in gameplay.

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Re: The new TF2 update ruined Escape Plan on VSH
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 12:49:39 am »
It shouldn't have been a shovel, but replaced with an equalizer with speed boost. I've made it actually give an escape plan with speedboost, so it should be working normally.

Unfortunately, however, I'm actually unable to remove marked for death due to some changes Valve made with how stats apply to weapons (they made it impossible to remove existing stats from weapons, only add new ones).

This will require some updates to the tf2items extension that controls item attributes, so it'll be fixed ~eventually~.