A rant with an important message and a point to make.
#13472Note: I posted this as a new thread instead of a reply because I felt this was something needed to be said more visibly and it applies out of context as well.
After a recent post regarding the trade server, I would like to bring something up that I believe we all need to think about. The original post that made me think of bringing this up is below:
I have to agree with his(her?) decision and overall point, although my specific concerns are a bit different. Please note that my long rant that I spent 45 minutes writing up before pasting below (lots of editing) is only talking about the Trading Hell server, the other servers within the SXH community are not included in my rant.
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One of my major problems with the trade server in its current state is that almost everyone on the trade server doesn't report rule breakers just because because "everyone else does stuff like that and gets away with it" or "that kinda thing is normal here, so I don't bother". People get away with shit because others don't report them when an admin is not around to see what is going on themselves, NOT because no one enforces the rules. I think Windy has said this on numerous occasions when people have brought it up, and it has been and always will be true in practice. They can't be everywhere at once no matter how much we (and they) wish they could be. They also have lives outside of being TF2 server admins which makes it so they are not available 24/7, that's just part of life.
Another trend that I have noticed as of late is people getting verbally attacked by others for pointing out that someone is breaking a major rule and that the rule breaker in question should knock it off before they get reported. While people saying stuff like "Oh, you're one of those retards who gets butthurt over people breaking the rules and reports them to the admins. Cry some more faggot." might have no effect on some people (myself included), I can defiantly see others not reporting people for breaking server rules when people who frequent the server start saying that kind of stuff.
On the bright side, with the addition of the latest batch of trial admins there seems to be more server staff willing to hang out on the trade server, which has helped exponentially. Having an admin present keeps the trouble makers in line, even if the admin themself isn't doing anything noticeable.
So I guess the point that I am trying to make is, people on the trade server need to start cleaning up their own behaviour if they want the server environment to improve. Change starts with you.
After a recent post regarding the trade server, I would like to bring something up that I believe we all need to think about. The original post that made me think of bringing this up is below:
wrote View original postYou people ruin my hope for trading hell. It used to be so much fun to be on that server, and just talk with friends. Now its nothing but lenny faces and people calling each other faggots. Yeah, I already know that the only responses I am going to get for this are going to be those and wannabe trolls, but it needs to be said. You people (apologies to the admin) have ruined this server. It doesn't make me mad that you guys are spamming all that shit and such, but rather it saddens me to see the quality and potential of a server go down the drain. Enjoy your cesspool, after all, you made it that way.
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I have to agree with his(her?) decision and overall point, although my specific concerns are a bit different. Please note that my long rant that I spent 45 minutes writing up before pasting below (lots of editing) is only talking about the Trading Hell server, the other servers within the SXH community are not included in my rant.
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One of my major problems with the trade server in its current state is that almost everyone on the trade server doesn't report rule breakers just because because "everyone else does stuff like that and gets away with it" or "that kinda thing is normal here, so I don't bother". People get away with shit because others don't report them when an admin is not around to see what is going on themselves, NOT because no one enforces the rules. I think Windy has said this on numerous occasions when people have brought it up, and it has been and always will be true in practice. They can't be everywhere at once no matter how much we (and they) wish they could be. They also have lives outside of being TF2 server admins which makes it so they are not available 24/7, that's just part of life.
Another trend that I have noticed as of late is people getting verbally attacked by others for pointing out that someone is breaking a major rule and that the rule breaker in question should knock it off before they get reported. While people saying stuff like "Oh, you're one of those retards who gets butthurt over people breaking the rules and reports them to the admins. Cry some more faggot." might have no effect on some people (myself included), I can defiantly see others not reporting people for breaking server rules when people who frequent the server start saying that kind of stuff.
On the bright side, with the addition of the latest batch of trial admins there seems to be more server staff willing to hang out on the trade server, which has helped exponentially. Having an admin present keeps the trouble makers in line, even if the admin themself isn't doing anything noticeable.
So I guess the point that I am trying to make is, people on the trade server need to start cleaning up their own behaviour if they want the server environment to improve. Change starts with you.
