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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 07:01:02 pm »

You may wish to review the GPL license. Here's a handy website for that: http://www.tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-general-public-license-v3-%28gpl-3%29

Additionally, the SM website contains a few FAQs about the license and derivative works (which prophunt is): http://www.sourcemod.net/license.php

That being said, the license quite clearly states that the source code only needs to be made available when the software is distributed. We're not distributing, so there is no legal requirement for me to disclose my changes or the code.

Judging by the "discussion" you've had with powerlord, the current maintainer of the plugin, on alliedmods (as far as I have read it), general opinion begs to differ. And so does the understanding of "distribution" in a juristic context. After all this plugin is made to distribute a special service which you offer by hosting it on your server. In a way you are a distributor.
Also (without knowing if and what the changes are) it's not a coincidence to set the version number just 0.01 up in comparison to the current branch (as you call it afaik). There's no denying that you did this on purpose. The only question is with how much honor and honesty you're handling this.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 05:30:37 pm »

Ofc an admin disapproves but you should at least be objective enough to not accuse me of trolling and instead close this without any comment.
But hey, what to expect. oO

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 05:23:37 pm »

That is still incorrectly understood. The issue would be in the license that says changes should a) be made public and b) not be used for own profit.
What is happening here is that code published under this license is modified (or just advertised to be) and exclusively used by a server of a 3rd party to make advantage of the original plugin to build a community upon it (and from that gain profit).

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 04:47:44 pm »

This analogy is flawed. You should rather think of a reseller without any permission.
Also I have been on Prophunt Hell and have seen no changes so far. So I don't think there is any "superiority" compared to other server's using the prophunt plugin.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 12:18:30 pm »

It should be obvious that this has gotten to somewhere where this is not about choosing a server for my likings. So your answer has nothing to do with the discussion whatsoever, btw.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 10:44:28 am »

[...]And, if you make your changes public, one should expect them to be changed within a community or be lashed against. Unless it is made private and says that no changes are allowed[...]

Someone's expectations don't justify anything and tbh the sourcemod license those plugins are being released under has a few words to say about this.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 14, 2013, 05:19:05 am »

I think you do not understand my posting because he is making his changes public and has other motives in mind.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: October 13, 2013, 10:27:21 am »

Wow, I have almost forgotten about this.
Powerlord, you are doing an amazing job so far. But honestly, I would not stand for such disrespectfulness from other admins and their communities who steal your code, hate your (good) changes, and use you for their advantage when it comes to their privatized plugins.
You seem like a very gifted guy in that department and I would love to see your work acknowledged and respected, but I'm afraid that's not possible with this very specific plugin. It would be stupid to keep up with this dickheads and see your potential and time go to waste.
If I were you I wouldn't make myself their puppet and indirectly support them.
Give it some time and they will run out of ideas and ruin their prophunt servers and then you can pick it up again under different circumstances and present your refresh of this.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: September 11, 2013, 04:18:08 pm »

It is not bugging me or anything, I am just wondering what actually changed, because there are so many different versions yet I could barely make out any changes. In this case even none.

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PropHunt Hell / Re: PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: September 11, 2013, 01:50:27 pm »

So I have looked around a bit and found out that PropHunt is currently maintained by this guy https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1972290#post1972290
Actually this means that this is not an official release and therefore should not have a version increase but instead a tag. Also there is no changelog of what voided does? Should the player simply "trust" in the number of the plugin's version? Isn't that kind of dishonest in a way, and in another because you could simple just change the version number, right? Is that possible and/or the case?

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PropHunt Hell / PropHunt 2.09 to 2.10 - What are the changes?

« on: September 11, 2013, 12:46:23 pm »

Hello guys!
I have recently discovered PropHunt for me, yet I am unsure to which server I should stick. I have discovered that Saxton Hell's server has PropHunt 2.10 running. Can anyone list the changes made from 2.09? Is it better?

Thanks in advance
your hopefully new community member