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Server Discussion => PropHunt Hell => Topic started by: HipsterGlaceon on January 14, 2013, 05:11:01 pm
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It's more then likely happened to you before, you see a prop and are approaching flaming distance when they hit a suicide/explode bind and take a hard earned kill away from you.
Is this griefing?
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Believe me when I say this happens to me more than anybody I've played with. Its a dick move, but getting the "World" kill in before they can do it is even more rewarding. If they wanna end the round sooner so that my team wins, I won't stop them. Also, if they wanna limit the number or props left before I have a chance to get my scatter gun, I won't complain either.
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Getting upset at a person on the other team for killing themselves doesn't seem ethical to me
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This has happened to me a few times, mostly by those regulars who care more about the green numbers that gradually accumilate more than the thrill of the chase - this is what annoys me about it - I can cope with one less kill 'n' all but once i've spent time running toward them its as you say box; a dick move.
I think the problem is simple laziness - It's only griefing if you let it get to you in my opinion as in the end it helps you out. I must say I was surprised when Joshy did it, in fact I welcomed it as I wouldn't have to chase him.
I think though for the case of balance and fairness for new players it can be classed as mild griefing.
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It only annoys me if its my first kill and they suicide before i get the speed boost. Especially as a soldier who walks slow as fuck.
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Everyone just started copying Joshy when he did it because if u can learn english, u'd beable to read what I said
It's quite annoying because it either gives me less green numbers, or them less green numbers if they can run at all decently.
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I'm just going to say that while, yes, it is frustrating to not get that kill on someone, is it also not frustrating to have an important path blocked blocked by a despencer even more frustrating? If placing depencers in such locations is still not considered griefing, I can hardly call killing oneself griefing.
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I'm just going to say that while, yes, it is frustrating to not get that kill on someone, is it also not frustrating to have an important path blocked blocked by a despencer even more frustrating? If placing depencers in such locations is still not considered griefing, I can hardly call killing oneself griefing.
Well to be fair the engie can't jump like the other classes and has pretty weak damage at long range. The dispenser is part of his gameplay and isn't griefing no matter where it is, despite if it is annoying to props.
Kill binds however aren't an intended gameplay mechanic at all.
But like I said, I don't really mind. But then again I couldn't care less abouts points or anything in prophunt. That speed boost denial is a dick move though lol.
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Well to be fair the engie can't jump like the other classes and has pretty weak damage at long range. The dispenser is part of his gameplay and isn't griefing no matter where it is, despite if it is annoying to props.
Kill binds however aren't an intended gameplay mechanic at all.
Well to be fair, doing something "creative" with your dispenser and yourself to block one or both of the doors in an enclosed control point is about as fair to the other team as me hiding under the map, and we all know how you guys liked that despite only one spot being against the rules.
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Well to be fair, doing something "creative" with your dispenser and yourself to block one or both of the doors in an enclosed control point is about as fair to the other team as me hiding under the map, and we all know how you guys liked that despite only one spot being against the rules.
So being strategic as a certain class isn't "fair" now and is synonymous with glitching under a map?
Someone actually got mad at me for blocking a door as an engie earlier on Brawl. I honestly don't understand that. There isn't a cp point that only has 1 way in/out so you can't completely block one off. Also dispenser placement for an engie is like rocket jumping as a soldier, it is part of the gameplay...do you think it's unfair for soldiers to jump more than 3 feet? Do you think it's unfair to be able to flare someone from across a map or flamejump?
I get the impression people just want engies to run around in circles singing show tunes all round. Anything else seems to attract anger like shit attracts flies.
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Here we go with another whining thread. Has suiciding in the game been a huge problem that I've not really seen when I play in SH? It happens once in awhile maybe, but its never occurred to me to bring it up and demand yet another aspect of playing a multiplayer game be altered.
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Here we go with another whining thread. Has suiciding in the game been a huge problem that I've not really seen when I play in SH? It happens once in awhile maybe, but its never occurred to me to bring it up and demand yet another aspect of playing a multiplayer game be altered.
You realize the thread was started by an admin who was asking if we considered it griefing, and almost everyone said they didn't mind it. Also, you were the first to respond to it and called it, and I quote..." a dick move." lol
(http://i.imgur.com/rMIwp.gif)
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best thread 2013
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
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Also, you were the first to respond to it and called it, and I quote..." a dick move." lol
([url]http://i.imgur.com/rMIwp.gif[/url])
Called it a "dick move" but that I also didn't care, which was the first point and most important point. Hence why I voted "No."
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So being strategic as a certain class isn't "fair" now and is synonymous with glitching under a map?
Someone actually got mad at me for blocking a door as an engie earlier on Brawl. I honestly don't understand that. There isn't a cp point that only has 1 way in/out so you can't completely block one off. Also dispenser placement for an engie is like rocket jumping as a soldier, it is part of the gameplay...do you think it's unfair for soldiers to jump more than 3 feet? Do you think it's unfair to be able to flare someone from across a map or flamejump?
I get the impression people just want engies to run around in circles singing show tunes all round. Anything else seems to attract anger like shit attracts flies.
I don't care if you block doors, as long as there's still a way to get out of the room you blocked. Also, I don't glitch out of maps, I jump strategically. Let your bias go..
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I have to say that engie dispensers never fully block doors anyway as you can jump over them, they block doors when players stand by them in the doorway (at what point this can be referred to as camping CP I dont know). The fact remains that if it's just a dispenser you can usually get a well timed crouch jump over it even if the dispenser's existence throws you in the first place.
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I don't care if you block doors, as long as there's still a way to get out of the room you blocked. Also, I don't glitch out of maps, I jump strategically. Let your bias go..
You jump strategically to "under the map?" lol If you are under the map, by definition you are not "in" it. I have no idea what you are even talking about so I'm going to assume you just misspoke. Also, I have no idea what this bias I have is either..
But anyway, you can't block any cp completely with 1 door. At least not that I can think of. Also, what Marshii said.
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How dafuq are the last couple of posts even mildly relevant?
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Yes, let's not start bashing other people and getting off topic, please.
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There are so many rants on every topic, it's gotten crazy.
Brb, making rant thread.
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Being someone who uses a suicide button, I don't think it's griefing because it's still moving the round along, and the prop is still dying. Granted I only pinpoint my suicide on certain people (here's looking at you elite skilled Exile and HOW THE HELL DID HE HIT ME WITH THAT FLARE, GOD FUUU- Glaceon)
Just use the mentality "I made you commit suicide, so that means I killed you"
As for dispenser blocking, the engineer can't keep up with you and sometimes he has that squirrel vision where shooting everything but you happens. The dispenser helps even out his inability to chase you. If he can't catch you, he can sure as hell block you. It's annoying sure, but for the most part I do pretty well staying hidden in spots from the times I played prop hunt
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Yeah suiciding in prophunt for me isn't an issue really just because I don't play for points or anything. That said in Hale mode (which I do sometimes play seriously) I suicide a lot actually lol, every time I get raged and it looks like hale is going to kill me I'll do it. Well, most of the time at least.
The difference being hale isn't physically affected by it, but in prophunt the blu team player is actually denied the physical rewards from the kill. Also just because some people do care about the ranking system in ph.
I will however kill myself to give the last prop the gun, but still. The good news is most people don't seem to mind it or care about points..etc in prophunt. Despite the impression you get from the forum its actually almost always fun in there and I doubt many people genuinely care about all this lol.