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Server Discussion => Deathrun Hell => Topic started by: Miaumon on May 31, 2012, 07:56:29 pm
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Scout - Bonk invincibility
Soldier - Whip
Pyro - Detonator
Demoman- Caber
Heavy - G.R.U Slowed down to 120% increase
Engineer- None
Sniper - Australian (No damn clue)
Medic - Healing with X-Bow
Spy- 1 use Dead ringer
If anyone has any ideas just post em
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The spy no longer has the dead ringer since yesterday's update. I'm still considering if this is an okay change.
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Dead ringer worked on a few traps, its fun to use on the last trap on forest if you make it to the end the bomb wont kill you. but now theres no reason to play spy. We could mod it to where the recharge is really slow or it could be a one time use through give item code.
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I believe the biggest problem with the dead ringer is the cloak. Otherwise the once-off survivability can be equated to the scout's bonk.
It's really frustrating when a spy uses DR and cloaks through traps and ends up being way in front where you don't see them.
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Ah yes when a spy jumps down the elevator on sawmill. we could disable the cloaks length with "34 ; 999" which would make it drain in an instant. i would test but my computer is fried, looking for a new one though going with a desktop (Herp Derp). would a http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0373654 be any good or just buy a case and build it on my own?
NVM mine is fixed so i will be on tomorrow to fix it, can you post the sm_gi for the deadringer or do i need to make my own?
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Also Demoman has a perk. He can use his caber pool (the hand grenade) to launch him upward, useful to escape traps that does not have a ceiling.
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wouldn't really go over well on maps like forest where the ceiling will kill you but we might try it just to see.
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Can we change the Caber to doing no damage to yourself?
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even though i don't play DR, i have a dumb idea for a sniper perk in it, and it might require a bit of coding:
being able to see the buttons that aren't pressed?
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already thought of that, to hard to do.
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Soldier can also use the Escape Plan on certain maps such as Dlux and Badwater, for better or worse.
Proposed idea for the engineer: Euraka effect grants 1 warp out to a certain point on the map, alternatively the Jag can be used to climb walls at a price for HP, and blocks healing?
Proposed idea for the sniper: Same as jag idea above except reintroduced with the Bushwacka. Alternatively, a certain set loadout grants a speed bonus same as the Pyro's Gas Jockey set.
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>Proposed idea for the engineer: Euraka effect grants 1 warp out to a certain point on the map, alternatively the Jag can be used to climb walls at a price for HP, and blocks healing?
People would tele behind things that kill people (trains, kings, penis, etc.) Block healing is pointless because medics cant heal and Xbox arrows override it, there wouldent be much use for it.
>Pyro's Gas Jockey set. we already plan on getting rid of this.
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So will the classes have to have the required weapons to activate their abilities? If so, then these aren't class abilities, these are just weapon changes. :/
Also will they be passive abilities (Automatically activates under certain conditions) or active abilities (Press a button. It fucking activates).
I wanna know this stuff before I start suggesting shit.
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Their abilities are essentially based on what weapons they have right now.
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Demoman ability -
Demomen equiping the Chargin' Targe can have the stats that still come with the shield (admins may buff/nerf as they see fit), although the shield does not get it's charging ability.
Heavy ability -
With the heavy's GRU, perhaps it can still have its old speed back, for the cost of a lower set health, e.g:Heavy has 300 health, heavy equips GRU, heavy now has 250 health. this does not mean that once the heavy is using the GRU as his current weapon he loses 50 health, I mean that when its in his loadout slots (when one equips it on the loadout screen/backpack screen), his max health will be 250.
Engineer ability -
An engineer with the Southern Hospitality can activate a rage/boost where he gets a 100 hp boost for 20 seconds, and a speed boost. I was kinda hoping that the speed boost would be as fast as GRU heavies (if engineers actually are faster, then can it be faster than that? W/E, its up to you guys if you want the engi boost to make him faster than GRU heavies, if this ability even gets "published")To activate it - Taunt key/G
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feel free to code this ability.
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So, how about remove the bonus from the gas jockey set and bring back the detonator, some people actually prefer high jumps rather than speed
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I have always wanted to get rid of the set on DR, im not sure what the detonator does now so Idk, if someone can explain what happened to it.
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Detonator just gives pyro a high jump nothing else, but as far as I know, it got removed because it could trigger some traps in certain maps like wooden. But I'm not sure if it was the detonator or the scorch shoot or both that could trigger traps
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It was the scorch shot that could trigger traps, Pyro still has the detonator.
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The detonator is replaced with the flare gun right now though, which allows the pyro to jump maybe as high as a heavy with GRU? I would much prefer losing the gas jockey set and having the detonator back.
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So, are we going to get it back? and keep or remove the pyro set?. need some sort of update here please
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I don't have any plans on increasing the detonator jump, I think it's fine as-is. The pyro class set will eventually be removed though.
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What do you mean with "Increase the detonator jump"? The thing is that, we can't equip/use the detonator.
I'm ok with the pyro set getting removed, I just need confirm if the flare gun will continue replacing the detonator and scorch shoot.
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Well, the way it works is that the flaregun, the detonator, and the scorch shot are all replaced with a flaregun that works like a detonator. It's confusing, but it's a carry over from the VSH mod.
Additionally, on certain maps (namely wooden and hotdesert), we replace the detonator and the scorch shot with a normal flaregun, since otherwise they can be used to activate some traps.
In the future, we may just filter button presses so only hale can press them, so we can give players normal pyro weapons.